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No coalition deal before Christmas, Fianna Fail deputy leader insists

A return of a Fianna Fail/Fine Gael government looks odds on, but uncertainty remains on potential junior partners.

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Finance Minister Jack Chambers said the parties involved in talks about forming a new administration needed ‘time and space’ (Niall Carson/PA)

A new coalition government in Ireland will not be in place before Christmas, Fianna Fail’s deputy leader has said.

Finance minister Jack Chambers said the parties involved in talks about forming a new administration needed “time and space” to ensure that any new government will be “coherent and stable”.

With only a few of the Dail parliament’s 174 seats left to be decided well into the third day of vote counting, it is evident Fianna Fail is the clear winner of Friday’s general election and will emerge with the most TDs.

A return of an administration involving Fianna Fail and Fine Gael now looks very likely.

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While Sinn Fein and Fine Gael may end up with around the same number of seats, Fianna Fail’s clear preference is for a renewal of its partnership with Fine Gael, rather than breaking its long-standing vow not to govern alongside Sinn Fein.

If Fianna Fail and Fine Gael return to power, they may fall just short of the combined 88 seats required for a Dail majority.

They, therefore, will either need one of the Dail’s smaller parties to come on board as a junior partner, or gain the support of a number of independent TDs.

While the Social Democrats and the Irish Labour Party appear the most realistic junior partners, both centre-left parties appear cautious about the prospect of an alliance with the two larger centre-right parties.

They will also no doubt be mindful of the experience of the Green Party, the junior partner in the last mandate. The Greens experienced near wipeout in the election, retaining only one of its 12 seats.

Counting continues at Nemo Rangers GAA Club in Cork on Monday
Counting continued at Nemo Rangers GAA Club in Cork on Monday (Jacob King/PA)

After an inconclusive outcome to the 2020 election, it took five months for Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and the Greens to strike the last coalition deal.

Mr Chambers said he did not believe it would take that long this time, as he noted the Covid-19 pandemic was a factor in 2020, but he also made clear it would not be a swift process.

He said he agreed with analysis that there was no prospect of a deal before Christmas.

“I don’t expect a government to be formed in mid-December, when the Dail is due to meet on the 18th of December, probably a Ceann Comhairle (speaker) can be elected, and there’ll have to be time and space taken to make sure we can form a coherent, stable government,” he told RTE.

“I don’t think it should take five months like it did the last time – Covid obviously complicated that. But I think all political parties need to take the time to see what’s possible and try and form a stable government for the Irish people.”

Fine Gael minister of state Peter Burke said members of his parliamentary party would have to meet to consider their options before giving leader and Taoiseach Simon Harris a mandate to negotiate a new programme for government with Fianna Fail.

“It’s important that we have a strong, stable, viable government, whatever form that may be, to ensure that we can meet the challenges of our society, meet the challenges in terms of the economic changes that are potentially going to happen,” he told RTE.

Fine Gael Minister for Enterprise Peter Burke speaks out of a car window
Peter Burke said it important to get a ‘stable’ government (Brian Lawless/PA)

Despite being set to emerge with the most seats, it has not been all good news for Fianna Fail.

The party’s outgoing Health minister Stephen Donnelly became one of the biggest casualties of the election so far when he lost his seat in Wicklow in the early hours of Monday morning.

Mr Donnelly was always predicted to face a fight in the constituency after boundary changes saw it reduced from five to four seats. He was beaten to the fourth and final seat by Fine Gael’s Edward Timmins, who was the running mate of Taoiseach Mr Harris, who topped the poll in that area.

If it is to be a reprise of the Fianna Fail/Fine Gael governing partnership of the last mandate, one of the major questions is around the position of taoiseach and whether the parties will once again take turns to hold the Irish premiership during the lifetime of the new government.

The outcome in 2020 saw the parties enter a coalition on the basis that the holder of the premier position would be exchanged midway through the term.

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Fianna Fail leader Micheal Martin (left) and Fine Gael leader Simon Harris could take turns in the job of taoiseach in the next coalition (Niall Carson/PA)

Fianna Fail leader Micheal Martin took the role for the first half of the mandate, with Leo Varadkar taking over in December 2022. Current Fine Gael leader Mr Harris succeeded Mr Varadkar as taoiseach when he resigned from the role earlier this year.

However, this time Fianna Fail appears well-placed to increase its seat lead over Fine Gael, compared with the last election when the parties were much closer.

The size of the disparity in party numbers is likely to draw focus on the rotating taoiseach arrangement, raising questions as to whether it will be re-run in the next coalition and, if it is, on what terms.

On Sunday, Simon Coveney, a former deputy leader of Fine Gael, said a coalition that did not repeat the rotating taoiseach arrangement in some fashion would be a “difficult proposition” for his party.

Meanwhile, Fine Gael minister Paschal Donohoe said he would be making the case for Mr Harris to have another opportunity to serve as taoiseach.

Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly
Outgoing Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly lost his seat in Wicklow (Brian Lawless/PA)

On Monday, Mr Chambers said while his party would expect to lead the Government it would approach the issue of rotating the taoiseach’s role on the basis of “mutual respect” with Fine Gael.

“I think the context of discussions and negotiations will be driven by mutual respect, and that’s the glue that will drive a programme for government and that’s the context in which we’ll engage,” he said.

On Monday, Labour leader Ivana Bacik reiterated her party’s determination to forge an alliance with fellow centre-left parties with the intention of having a unified approach to the prospect of entering government.

Asked if Labour was prepared to go into government with Fianna Fail and Fine Gael on its own, she told RTE. “No, not at this stage. We are absolutely not willing to do that. We want to ensure there’s the largest number of TDs who share our vision and our values who want to deliver change on the same basis that we do.”

The Social Democrats have been non-committal about any potential arrangement with Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, and have restated a series of red lines they would need to achieve before considering taking a place in government.

Leader Holly Cairns, who gave birth to a daughter on polling day on Friday, said in a statement: “The party is in a very strong position to play an important role in the next Dail. In what position, government or opposition, remains to be seen.”

Fianna Fail secured the most first preference votes in Friday’s proportional representation election, taking 21.9% to Fine Gael’s 20.8%. Sinn Fein came in third on 19%.

While Sinn Fein’s vote share represented a marked improvement on its disappointing showing in June’s local elections in Ireland, it is still significantly down on the 24.5% poll-topping share it secured in the 2020 general election.

The final breakdown of first preferences also flipped the result of Friday night’s exit poll, which suggested Sinn Fein was in front on 21.1%, with Fine Gael on 21% and Fianna Fail on 19.5%.

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